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[Camibmr]

@macomaniac

Bon j'ai un peu eu du mal au démarrage, mais voici ce que ça donne :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo find -x /System/Volumes/Data -d 1 -regex '.*[^\.\].*' -exec sudo du -shx {} +
Password:
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.Spotlight-V100: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.Trashes: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/mnt: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.DocumentRevisions-V100: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.TemporaryItems: No such file or directory
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/sw
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.HFS+ Private Directory Data
1,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/home
 44M    /System/Volumes/Data/usr
121M    /System/Volumes/Data/.Spotlight-V100
8,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.DS_Store
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.installer-compatibility
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware
1,7M    /System/Volumes/Data/.TempReceipt.bom
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.file
9,1G    /System/Volumes/Data/Library
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.Trashes
6,1G    /System/Volumes/Data/System
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.OSInstallerMessages
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/mnt
3,7M    /System/Volumes/Data/.fseventsd
 10G    /System/Volumes/Data/private
269M    /System/Volumes/Data/.DocumentRevisions-V100
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.vol
 37G    /System/Volumes/Data/Users
 15G    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications
178M    /System/Volumes/Data/opt
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/Volumes
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.TemporaryItems
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.dbfseventsd
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/cores
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

 

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@ Camibmr

Je comptabilise 77,8 Gi = 84 Go de fichiers catalogués. Pour 84 Go de blocs occupés. Ce qui correspond donc (les snaphots n'introduisent aucune perturburation).

- le volume-Données de Catalina héberge à la fois les données variables de l'OS (les données constantes étant recelées dans le volume-Système de taille invariable) & les données d'utilisateur (fichiers personnels et logiciels tiers ajoutés). Dans ton cas > ce sont les données d'utilisateur qui constituent le gros des fichiers : Utilisateurs 37 Gi = 40 Go & Applications 15 Gi = 16 Go. Je note seulement un dossier-Système private à 10 Gi = 11 Go => ce qui est peut-être un peu "gonflé".​

Passe les commandes (copier-coller - séparément) :

sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/Ap*/*
sudo du -sh /Users/*
sudo du -sh ~/*
sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/*

• qui mesurent (en Gi) les logiciels tiers dans Applications > les dossiers de comptes dans Utilisateurs > les sous-dossiers de ton dossier de compte CamilleBaumeyer > les sous-dossiers de private

Poste tous les retours. Tu auras compris qu'on chercher s'il n'y aurait pas du dispensable à élaguer quelque part...

 

[Camibmr]

D'accord, je vois.
Voici les retours :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/Ap*/*
760M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Canon Utilities
116M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/CleanMyMac X.app
455M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Google Chrome.app
 11G    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Install macOS Big Sur.app
321M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Keynote.app
721M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/LibreOffice.app
230M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Numbers.app
196M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/OneDrive.app
285M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Origin.app
266M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Pages.app
 27M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Safari.app
250M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Skype.app
252M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Spotify.app
3,9M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Utilities
8,4M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Wanteeed.app
144M    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Zotero.app
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh /Users/*
 36G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer
8,0K    /Users/Deleted Users
4,0K    /Users/Guest
1,0G    /Users/Shared
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh ~/*
 50M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Applications
 20K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Desktop
2,7G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Documents
 12K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Downloads
 13G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library
 40M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Movies
 16G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Music
4,7G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Pictures
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Public
 87M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Zotero
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/*
2,5M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/etc
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/tftpboot
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/tmp
 11G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

 

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Dans les Applications --> c'est ceci qui prend de la place :

 11G    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/Install macOS Big Sur.app

• l'installateur de Big Sur qui te prend 11,8 Go

Dans les Utilisateurs --> tout est dans le dossier CamilleBaumeyer sauf ceci -->

1,0G    /Users/Shared

• le dossier Partagé recelant 1 Gi = 1,1 Go

Dans le dossier CamilleBaumeyer > c'est surtout ceci -->

 13G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library

• la Bibliothèque (non affichée par défaut par le Finder) qui fait 13 Gi = 14 Go

Dans private > c'est là -->

 11G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var

• sous-dossier var de 11 Gi = 12 Go

Je réserve mon commentaire sur les Applications. Regarde ce que contient le dossier Partagé des Utilisateurs.

- passe les commandes :​

sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/*
sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/var/*

• qui mesurent (en Gi) les sous-dossiers de ta Bibliothèque > puis les contenus de 1er ordre de var

Poste les retours.

 

[Camibmr]

@macomaniac

Voilà pour les dernières commandes :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/*
Password:
4,2M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Accounts
124K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Scripts
6,3G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support
220K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Assistant
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Assistants
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Audio
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Autosave Information
1,3G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Caches
6,2M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Calendars
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/CallServices
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/ColorPickers
24K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Colors
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Compositions
640M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Containers
504K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Cookies
32K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/CoreData
48K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/CoreFollowUp
16K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/DES
100K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Dictionaries
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Family
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Favorites
24K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/FileProvider
8,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/FontCollections
1,2M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Fonts
80K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/FrontBoard
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/GameKit
9,7M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Google
1,8G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Group Containers
4,4M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/HomeKit
2,6M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/IdentityServices
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Input Methods
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Internet Plug-Ins
208K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Keyboard
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Keyboard Layouts
3,6M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/KeyboardServices
35M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Keychains
1,7M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/LanguageModeling
16K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/LaunchAgents
2,2M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Logs
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/MacInstallEe
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/MacInstallPall
16K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/MacUpdDate
224M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Mail
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Maps
13M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/MediaStream
2,2G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Messages
24M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Metadata
92M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Mobile Documents
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/PDF Services
608K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Passes
8,3M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/PersonalizationPortrait
112K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Personas
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/PreferencePanes
2,5M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Preferences
1,1M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Printers
144K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/PubSub
632K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Receipts
4,7M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Reminders
1,4M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/RenPy
262M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Safari
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/SafariSafeBrowsing
444K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Saved Application State
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Screen Savers
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/ScreenRecordings
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Scripts
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Services
44K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Sharing
56K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Social
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Sounds
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Speech
44K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Spelling
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/StickiesDatabase
16M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Suggestions
3,6M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/SyncedPreferences
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/UIKitSystem
20K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Updates
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Voices
172K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/WebKit
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Workflows
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/appn
8,3M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/backup.zip
24K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/com.apple.icloud.searchpartyd
128K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/com.apple.internal.ck
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/iMovie
652K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/iTunes
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/instance
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/jjkl
24K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/railway
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/settings.dat
12K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/studentd
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/watch.log
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/var/*
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/agentx
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/at
13M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/audit
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/backups
2,7G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/empty
6,4G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/install
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/jabberd
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/lib
11M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/log
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/ma
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/mail
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/msgs
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/netboot
3,4M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/networkd
1008M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/root
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/rpc
40K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/run
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/rwho
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/select
315M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/spool
12K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/tmp
1,0G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/vm
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/yp
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

@macomaniac
Et concernant le dossier partagé de utilisateurs j'ai ceci :

​

 

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Dans ta Bibliothèque > tu as Application Support à 6,3 Gi = 6,8 Go. Et dans var > il n'y a que dans folders 6,4 Gi = 6,9 Go qu'on puisse envisager d'élaguer (le reste : surtout pas !).

- passe encore les 2 commandes :​

sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/Ap*\Sup*/*
sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/var/fol*/*

• qui mesurent (en Gi) les contenus de Application Support > puis de folders

Poste les retours.

Note : tu peux benner dans Partagé.

 

[Camibmr]

D'accord, donc je peux supprimer tous les dossiers dans "Partagé" sans problèmes ?

Voilà :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh ~/Lib*/Ap*\Sup*/*
Password:
 16M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Adobe
252K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Anki2
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Automator
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CEF
1,8M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryDB
 40K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryTransactions
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Canon
3,3M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CleanMyMac X
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CleanMyMac X HealthMonitor
8,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CleanMyMac X Menu
3,3M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CloudDocs
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CoreParsec
344K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/CrashReporter
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/DiskImages
128K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Dock
 32K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/FileProvider
357M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Google
4,5M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Grammarly
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Intego
 32K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/JREInstaller
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Java
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/JetBrains
992K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/KeyBlaze
 26M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Knowledge
186M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/LibreOffice
252K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Malwarebytes
106M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Microsoft
200K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Microsoft AU Daemon
112K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Microsoft AutoUpdate
284K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Microsoft Update Assistant
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/MobileSync
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Mozilla
672K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/NCH Software
 16K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/OneDrive
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/OneDriveStandaloneUpdater
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/OneDriveUpdater
1,7M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Oracle
310M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Origin
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Preview
8,7M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Quick Look
148M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Scribe
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/ScribeSubStatAbort
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Skype
138M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Spotify
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Steam
1,2M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/SyncServices
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/System Preferences
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/TrustedPeersHelper
2,5M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/XMind ZEN
8,4M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/Zotero
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/accountsd
4,4G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/cacaoweb
568K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.AMPLibraryAgent
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.ContextStoreAgent
4,1M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.ProtectedCloudStorage
128K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC
 28K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.akd
8,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.backgroundtaskmanagementagent
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.kvs
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.replayd
2,3M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.sbd
672K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.sharedfilelist
 72K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.spotlight
1,2M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.touristd
192K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.transparencyd
573M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.apple.voicememos
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.microsoft.OneDrive
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.microsoft.OneDriveStandaloneUpdater
4,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/com.microsoft.OneDriveUpdater
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/dmd
168K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/hotger
8,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/iCloud
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/iLifeMediaBrowser
8,0K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/icdd
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/syncdefaultsd
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/transparencyd
776K    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/videosubscriptionsd
  0B    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/voicememod
 19M    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/zoom.us

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/var/fol*/*
 70M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/0q
406M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/f_
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/hq
 68M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/yf
5,8G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

 

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Dans Application Support > je ne vois que ceci de notable -->

4,4G    /Users/CamilleBaumeyer/Library/Application Support/cacaoweb

• cacaoweb 4,4 Gi = 4,8 Go => je suppose que ça correspond à un usage de ta part ?

Dans folders c'est ici -->

5,8G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz

• le notoire zz à 5,8 Gi = 6,3 Go

Passe la commande :

sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/var/fol*/zz/*

• qui mesure (en Gi) les contenus de zz

Poste le retour.

 

[Camibmr]

@macomaniac

Je n'ai plus le souvenir d'avoir utilisé ce site, en tout cas je ne l'utilise pas en ce moment

Voilà :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo du -sh /System/Vol*/Data/priv*/var/fol*/zz/*
Password:
1,6G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000
 48K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000000h000004
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000003000000r
2,6M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000003800000t
136K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000006w00001q
148K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000084000021
 14M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000b000002r
8,8M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000b400002s
288K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000bh00002w
 43M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000c4000031
 48K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000cc000033
4,1G    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068
108K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s800006_
 19M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000t800006k
 80K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000th00006m
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000tm00006n
 88K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000vr00006y
148K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000xc00007b
 80K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y000007h
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y400007j
592K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000yc00007l
 27M    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000z000007r
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000104000081
 56K    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000108000082
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010c000083
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010h000084
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010m000085
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010r000086
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000010w000087
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000114000089
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011800008_
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011m00008d
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n000011r00008f
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

 

[Membre supprimé 1060554]

Ajout : dans Partagé tu peux garder le dossier Canon > et benner tout le reste.

 

[Membre supprimé 1060554]

Bon. Passe les commandes -->

sudo rm -rf /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000
sudo rm -rf /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068

• qui suppriment les 2 sous-dossiers de zz totalisant les données (contenus temporaires supprimables). Les commandes passent sans affichage retour si elles passent.

=> est-ce que ça a été le cas ?

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Veux-tu supprimer les ressources de cacaoweb ?

 

[Camibmr]

C'est fait.
J'ai vu que c'était un site/une app de streaming donc c'est possible que je l'ai déjà utilisé.
Oui on peut les supprimer

 

[Membre supprimé 1060554]

Passe encore la commande :

sudo rm -rf ~/Library/"Application Support"/cacaoweb

• qui supprime cacaoweb

Cela fait > passe la commande :

df -H /System/Volumes/Data

• qui mesure l'occupation des blocs du volume-Données > et l'espace libre global dans le Conteneur apfs

Poste le retour.

 

[YtY]

Last login: Tue Dec 15 22:55:39 on ttys000

The default interactive shell is now zsh.
To update your account to use zsh, please run `chsh -s /bin/zsh`.
For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.
ProBookMac-de-YtY:~ yty$ csrutil disable
csrutil: failed to modify system integrity configuration. This tool needs to be executed from the Recovery OS.
ProBookMac-de-YtY:~ yty$
  [Restauré 15 déc. 2020 à 23:20:09]
Last login: Tue Dec 15 23:17:06 on console
Restored session: Mar 15 déc 2020 22:58:22 CET

The default interactive shell is now zsh.
To update your account to use zsh, please run `chsh -s /bin/zsh`.
For more details, please visit https://support.apple.com/kb/HT208050.
ProBookMac-de-YtY:~ yty$ sudo find -x /System/Volumes/Data -d 1 -regex '.*[^\.\].*' -exec sudo du -shx {} +
Password:
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.Spotlight-V100: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.cleverfiles: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.Trashes: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/System/Library/Templates/Data/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/mnt: No such file or directory
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/fpsd/dvp: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/Sandbox: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/lockdown: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/searchparty: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/CoreDuet/Knowledge: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Store: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/60/skw3g49d5jvcmh79csmfcxtm0000gp/0/com.apple.LaunchServices.dv: Operation not permitted
............
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/C/com.apple.WebKit.WebContent.Sandbox: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/C/com.apple.QuickLook.thumbnailcache: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/C/com.apple.WebKit.Networking.Sandbox: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/0: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000sm00006d/C: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000y800007k/T/com.apple.nsurlsessiond/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n00000s0000068/T/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/0/com.apple.LaunchServices.dv: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T/com.apple.mobileassetd/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T/com.apple.revisiond/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T/com.apple.apsd/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T/com.apple.systempreferences.cacheAssistant/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/zz/zyxvpxvq6csfxvn_n0000000000000/T/com.apple.nehelper/TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.DocumentRevisions-V100: No such file or directory
............
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Suggestions: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Containers/com.apple.VoiceMemos: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Containers/com.apple.archiveutility: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Containers/com.apple.Home: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Containers/com.apple.Safari: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Containers/com.apple.iChat: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Users/yty/Library/Containers/com.apple.CloudDocs.MobileDocumentsFileProvider: Operation not permitted
....
find: /System/Volumes/Data/Volumes/com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots: Operation not permitted
find: /System/Volumes/Data/.TemporaryItems: No such file or directory
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/sw
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.HFS+ Private Directory Data
1,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/home
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/Informations sur l’utilisateur
3,9M    /System/Volumes/Data/usr
du: /System/Volumes/Data/.Spotlight-V100: Operation not permitted
16K    /System/Volumes/Data/.DS_Store
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.installer-compatibility
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware
1,6M    /System/Volumes/Data/.TempReceipt.bom
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.file
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.mtm.private.plist
du: /System/Volumes/Data/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC: Operation not permitted
31G    /System/Volumes/Data/Library
11M    /System/Volumes/Data/.cleverfiles
du: /System/Volumes/Data/.Trashes: Operation not permitted
3,1G    /System/Volumes/Data/System
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.OSInstallerMessages
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/mnt
2,0M    /System/Volumes/Data/.fseventsd
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/fpsd/dvp: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/Sandbox: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/lockdown: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/searchparty: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/CoreDuet/Knowledge: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/db/ConfigurationProfiles/Store: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/60/skw3g49d5jvcmh79csmfcxtm0000gp/0/com.apple.LaunchServices.dv: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/0/com.apple.ScreenTimeAgent/Store: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/0/com.apple.lockoutagent: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/0/com.apple.progressd/ClassKit: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/0/com.apple.Safari/SafariFamily: Operation not permitted
du: /System/Volumes/Data/private/var/folders/2n/nlrg4q753qz3qplsjm81yzy00000gn/0/com.apple.LaunchServices.dv: Operation ...............
13G    /System/Volumes/Data/private
du: /System/Volumes/Data/.DocumentRevisions-V100: Operation not permitted
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/.vol
................
147G    /System/Volumes/Data/Users
21G    /System/Volumes/Data/Applications
182M    /System/Volumes/Data/opt
du: /System/Volumes/Data/Volumes/com.apple.TimeMachine.localsnapshots: Operation not permitted
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/Volumes
du: /System/Volumes/Data/.TemporaryItems: Operation not permitted
  0B    /System/Volumes/Data/cores
4,0K    /System/Volumes/Data/.MySCMServerInfo
ProBookMac-de-YtY:~ yty$

Obligé de supprimer une partie des infos car plus de 1000 caractères :/

 

[Camibmr]

C'est fait. Voilà pour le retour :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ df -H /System/Volumes/Data
Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity iused      ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/disk1s1   121G    85G    22G    80%  261477 1182581003    0%   /System/Volumes/Data
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$

 

[Membre supprimé 1060554]

@ YtY

Je pense que tu n'as pas désactivé le SIP dans la session de secours en préalable de la commande de mesure. D'où la floppée de "Operation not permitted" qui équivaut à des dénis d'accès en lecture à des objets.

- revois mon message #258.​

 

[YtY]

csrutil disable

ProBookMac-de-YtY:~ yty$ csrutil disable
csrutil: failed to modify system integrity configuration. This tool needs to be executed from the Recovery OS.
ProBookMac-de-YtY:~ yty$

 

[Membre supprimé 1060554]

@ YtY

C'est dans le terminal de la session de secours que tu dois passer la commande. Elle est invalide dans le terminal de ta session.

- relis mon message #258 (ter).​

 

[Membre supprimé 1060554]

@ Camibmr

Je comprends : les snapshots existants verrouillent les blocs dont on a supprimé les fichiers.

- va à : Menu  > Préférences Système > Time Machine => décoche la case : "Sauvegarder automatiquement" qui est le robinet des snapshots.​

Puis passe la commande :

sudo tmutil thinlocalsnapshots /System/Volumes/Data 99000000000 4 ; say 'ENFIN TERMINÉ LA PURGE'

• la commande supprime en lot les snapshots. Attends d'entendre une voix déclarer :"Enfin ... terminé la purge !" en signal de fin

Poste le retour.

 

[Camibmr]

Je ne m'attendais pas à la voix ça m'a effrayé haha !

voilà :

AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$ sudo tmutil thinlocalsnapshots /System/Volumes/Data 99000000000 4 ; say 'ENFIN TERMINÉ LA PURGE'
Password:
Thinned local snapshots:
com.apple.TimeMachine.2020-12-15-200824.local
com.apple.TimeMachine.2020-12-15-200824.local
com.apple.TimeMachine.2020-12-15-203627.local
com.apple.TimeMachine.2020-12-15-203627.local
AirdeCamille5:~ CamilleBaumeyer$