iMac SSD plus bootable

[ADK1]

Je colle ton diagnostique de cet aprém : "Space Manager is invalid, ce qui pourrait être traduit par le gestionnaire d'allocation des blocs de l'APFS est corrompu"
=> faut-il racheter un SSD ou bien après re formatage celui-ci serait "réparé" ? Autrement dit, mon ssd est mort ou peut-il guérir ? Ou on sait pas et dans le doute il faut le changer ?

 

[ADK1]

En gros je sais pas exactement quoi racheter...
1. Un nouveau ssd, ou bien
2. Un simple disque à plateau tampon pour glisser - déposer les datas pour ensuite re formater le ssd endommagé et repartir avec celui-ci.
J'espère que je suis clair.

 

[ericse]

J'espère que je suis clair.

Oui, mais on ne peut pas te répondre, le seul moyen de savoir si ton SSD est réutilisable serait d'essayer de le reformater : souhaites tu le faire immédiatement, ou après avoir tenté de récupérer les fichiers qui s'y trouvent ?

 

[ADK1]

Oui bien sûr, je vais sauvegarder avant le re formatage :oops:
Mais,
1. puis-je sauvegarder les données en branchant simplement le disque time-machine que j'ai sous la main ?
2. où dois-je acheter un autre disque pour faire le glisser-déposer à ma main ?
That is the question

 

[ericse]

Oui bien sûr, je vais sauvegarder avant le re formatage :oops:
Mais,
1. puis-je sauvegarder les données en branchant simplement le disque time-machine que j'ai sous la main ?
2. où dois-je acheter un autre disque pour faire le glisser-déposer à ma main ?
That is the question

Ça dépend de la valeur que tu donnes à tes données, mais moi je ne toucherais pas à ce backup Time Machine tant que le Mac est en travaux... de peur de corrompre aussi le dernier backup.

 

[izel mor]

1. puis-je sauvegarder les données en branchant simplement le disque time-machine que j'ai sous la main ?
2. où dois-je acheter un autre disque pour faire le glisser-déposer à ma main ?
That is the question

Pas vraiment à mon avis. Tes sauvegardes TM concerne le disque SSD en interne et non en support externe même s’il s’agit du même disque. Il vaut mieux éviter de jongler avec ce disque au risque de tout perdre. TM est parfois capricieux pour ne pas dire caractériel.
La solution est un autre disque, tu as une grande quantité de données
L’important devrait être dans Users.
Peux tu passer

ls /Vol*/"Disque principal"/Users

Qui montrera les dossiers utilisateurs
Et

df -H /

Qui retourne l’utilisation des disques en Go

 

[ADK1]

Hello, voilà. Mais la dernière commande n'indique que l'utilisation du (vieux) HDD interne.

J'ai essayé de glisser déposer quelques données du SSD défectueux vers le HDD interne (presque plein), ça ne fonctionne pas vraiment : certaines sont transférées, d'autres pas. Ça se termine en erreur.

Mac-de-Alaric:~ alaricchaignon$ ls /Vol*/"Disque principal"/Users
Guest        Shared        alaricchaignon    claire
iMac-de-Alaric:~ alaricchaignon$ df -H /
Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity iused      ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/disk0s2   499G   483G    16G    97% 2014091 4292953188    0%   /
iMac-de-Alaric:~ alaricchaignon$

 

[izel mor]

Je voulais pointer vers ton SSD en le désignant puis je me suis dit que c’était inutile pour 2 lignes....et j’ai oublié d’enlever le/ qui désigne uniquement le disque démarré
Repasse stp.

df -H

Pour inclure le disque externe
J’ai quand même l’impression que la corruption perturbe les copies
On va tester ta session

ls /Vol*/"Disque principal"/Users/alari*

 

[ADK1]

aïe, le terminal ne renvoie plus rien. Il y a une copie en cours qui n'abouti pas, j'ai la toupie arc en ciel.
Et dans le finder, je ne vois à nouveau plus le contenu du dossier Utilisateurs.

 

[izel mor]

Ne le brusque pas.
Tu peux arrêter la copie qui bloque avec CMD +Q
Ou si ça ne marche pas par CMD + Option + ESC
Puis tu relances le finder

 

[ADK1]

Voilà les commandes terminal :

iMac-de-Alaric:~ alaricchaignon$ df -H
ls /Vol*/"Disque principal"/Users/alari*
Filesystem      Size   Used  Avail Capacity iused               ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/disk0s2    499G   483G    16G    97% 2015042          4292952237    0%   /
devfs           192k   192k     0B   100%     650                   0  100%   /dev
map -hosts        0B     0B     0B   100%       0                   0  100%   /net
map auto_home     0B     0B     0B   100%       0                   0  100%   /home
/dev/disk2s1    960G   908G    39G    96% 2723619 9223372036852052188    0%   /Volumes/Disque principal

 

[ADK1]

et la suite... mais je suis obligé de le tronqué car > à 10 000 caractères.

iMac-de-Alaric:~ alaricchaignon$ ls /Vol*/"Disque principal"/Users/alari*
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[izel mor]

Effectivement, il aurait du te donner les dossiers Pictures, Desktop...
Soit le lecture depuis l’OS ouverte ne permet pas d’avoir une lecture complète , soit plus sûrement ton disque est défaillant.
Arrives tu a voir des dossiers ?

 

[ADK1]

Là il y a la roue colorée qui tourne... Dans le finder on ne voit pas le contenu du SDD, peut-être qu'il va finir par voir des choses. Hier on voyait des dossiers et fichiers mais pas tout...

 

[izel mor]

Très fatigué. Il faut essayer de le débrancher puis rebrancher et surtout ne plus toucher à rien s'il re fonctionne (à part sauvegarder).

 

[ADK1]

Penses-t qu'un utilitaire pourrait faciliter les choses ? Si oui lequel ?

 

[izel mor]

Si le disque est physiquement défaillant, je ne sais pas. Mais tu as des versions avec démonstration qui te permettent de voir ce qui est récupérable.
Après il faut payer pour récupérer
Tu as ce fil

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[ADK1]

Très fatigué. Il faut essayer de le débrancher puis rebrancher et surtout ne plus toucher à rien s'il re fonctionne (à part sauvegarder).

Hello, donc je résume. Je comprends que je n'ai que 2 solutions :
1. Brancher/débrancher le SSD et tenter de transférer les fichiers par paquets sur un autre disque (glisser/déposer)
2. Utiliser un soft de récupération de données mais pas sûr que ça fonctionne mieux si le problème est matériel.
Au vu des différents "rapports" du terminal, tu ne vois rien d'autre à tenter ?
Merci d'avance,

 

[izel mor]

Je suis arrivée à mon seuil d'incompétence. Mais avec les versions de démonstration tu peux tenter la récupération. Tu verras bien si l'utilitaire retrouve des fichiers importants. Tu peux même en essayer plusieurs et éventuellement payer si tu retrouves tes petits