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Bloc de code: 
MacBook-Pro-de-admin:~ admin$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0 (internal, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *256.1 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk1         255.9 GB   disk0s2

/dev/disk1 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +255.9 GB   disk1
                                 Physical Store disk0s2
   1:                APFS Volume Macintosh               226.0 GB   disk1s1
   2:                APFS Volume Preboot                 23.9 MB    disk1s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                507.4 MB   disk1s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      2.1 GB     disk1s4

/dev/disk2 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +499.8 GB   disk2
                                 Physical Store disk3s2
   1:                APFS Volume Clone                   115.0 GB   disk2s1
   2:                APFS Volume PreBoot                 22.0 MB    disk2s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                514.5 MB   disk2s3

/dev/disk3 (external, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *500.1 GB   disk3
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk3s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk2         499.8 GB   disk3s2
 
Ça m'a l'air bien.

- tu peux redémarrer avec "alt" pour obtenir l'écran de choix du volume de démarrage. Choisis Clone > démarre dessus.​

Tu devrais ouvrir une session conforme à l'originale (avec un fonctionnement ralenti dû à l'USB). Passe une commande :
Bloc de code: 
diskutil list

  • encore et reposte le tableau des disques => c'est pour être sûr de l'index du Conteneur interne à la suite de ce démarrage externe.
 
En effet c'est bien long :up:

Bloc de code: 
MacBook-Pro-de-admin:~ admin$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0 (internal, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *256.1 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk1         255.9 GB   disk0s2

/dev/disk1 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +255.9 GB   disk1
                                 Physical Store disk0s2
   1:                APFS Volume Macintosh               225.9 GB   disk1s1
   2:                APFS Volume Preboot                 23.9 MB    disk1s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                507.4 MB   disk1s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      2.1 GB     disk1s4

/dev/disk2 (external, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *500.1 GB   disk2
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk2s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk3         499.8 GB   disk2s2

/dev/disk3 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +499.8 GB   disk3
                                 Physical Store disk2s2
   1:                APFS Volume Clone                   115.1 GB   disk3s1
   2:                APFS Volume PreBoot                 23.9 MB    disk3s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                514.5 MB   disk3s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      1.1 GB     disk3s4
 
Passe la commande (copier-coller) :
Bloc de code: 
diskutil ap deleteContainer disk1 ; diskutil eraseVolume apfs Macintosh disk0s2 ; diskutil list

  • la commande supprime l'apfs interne > reformate un volume Macintosh en apfs > réaffiche le tableau des disques

Poste le retour complet de la commande.
 
Bloc de code: 
CStarted APFS operation on disk1
Deleting APFS Container with all of its APFS Volumes
Unmounting Volumes
Unmounting Volume "Macintosh" on disk1s1
Unmounting Volume "Preboot" on disk1s2
Unmounting Volume "Recovery" on disk1s3
Unmounting Volume "VM" on disk1s4
Deleting Volumes
Deleting Container
Wiping former APFS disks
Switching content types
Reformatting former APFS disks
Initialized /dev/rdisk0s2 as a 238 GB case-insensitive HFS Plus volume with a 24576k journal
Mounting disk
1 new disk created or changed due to APFS operation
Disk from APFS operation: disk0s2
Finished APFS operation on disk1
Started erase on disk0s2 Untitled
Unmounting disk
Erasing
Mounting disk
Finished erase on disk0s2
/dev/disk0 (internal, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *256.1 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk1         255.7 GB   disk0s2

/dev/disk1 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +255.7 GB   disk1
                                 Physical Store disk0s2
   1:                APFS Volume Macintosh               806.9 KB   disk1s1

/dev/disk2 (external, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *500.1 GB   disk2
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk2s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk3         499.8 GB   disk2s2

/dev/disk3 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +499.8 GB   disk3
                                 Physical Store disk2s2
   1:                APFS Volume Clone                   115.3 GB   disk3s1
   2:                APFS Volume PreBoot                 23.9 MB    disk3s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                514.5 MB   disk3s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      1.1 GB     disk3s4

/dev/disk4 (disk image):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:     Apple_partition_scheme                        +168.8 MB   disk4
   1:        Apple_partition_map                         32.3 KB    disk4s1
   2:                  Apple_HFS Dashlane                168.8 MB   disk4s2
 
Parfait -->

- relance CCC (qui s'est cloné lui-même dans les Applications de Clone). Définis une nouvelle tâche telle que : SOURCE = Clone > DESTINATION = Macintosh > SafetyNet = Désactivé > presse le bouton : "Cloner".​

Quand le logiciel te déclare que tout est fini > redémarre avec "alt" > choisis Macintosh => démarre dessus.

- tu n'auras qu'à dire si tu récupères ta session conforme > avec la vitesse habituelle (et un apfs débarrassé de son erreur).​
 
Bonsoir je reviens ici car j'ai encore un problème de place que prend le système, j'ai commencé une petite enquête et je pense savoir quel est le problème, j'ai remarqué que mon dossier "User" fait 52Go dans ces 52Go j'ai un dossier "Application Support" qui pèse 42Go a lui tout seul.Quand j'ouvre le dossier j'ai une douzaine de sous-dossier mais si je fais la somme de l'espace qu'ils prennent je devrai a peine arriver à 3Go alors que j'obtiens un résultat bien différent:
Bloc de code: 
pc-3:~ raphaeljob$ sudo du -sh ~/Library/*
Password:
3,7M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Accounts
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Scripts
42G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support
516K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Assistant
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Assistants
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Audio
1,4G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Caches
4,4M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Calendars
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/CallServices
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/ColorPickers
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Colors
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Compositions
594M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Containers
160K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Cookies
28K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/CoreFollowUp
48K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Dictionaries
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Family
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Favorites
24K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/FileProvider
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/FontCollections
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Fonts
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/GameKit
9,9M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Group Containers
2,9M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/HomeKit
1,0M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/IdentityServices
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Input Methods
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Internet Plug-Ins
36K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Keyboard
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Keyboard Layouts
536K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/KeyboardServices
17M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Keychains
292K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/LanguageModeling
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/LaunchAgents
1,1M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Logs
3,9M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Mail
137M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Messages
9,3M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Metadata
988K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Mobile Documents
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/PDF Services
468K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Passes
16K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/PersonalizationPortrait
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/PreferencePanes
1,4M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Preferences
252K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Printers
200K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/PubSub
325M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Safari
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/SafariSafeBrowsing
604K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Saved Application State
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Screen Savers
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Scripts
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Services
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Sharing
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Sounds
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Speech
12K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Spelling
12M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Suggestions
836K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/SyncedPreferences
53M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/The Creative Assembly
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/VoiceTrigger
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Voices
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/WebKit
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Workflows
44K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/com.apple.internal.ck
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/iMovie
12K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/studentd

Je précise que je suis toujours sous Mojave
 
@macomaniac pour info
Bloc de code: 
sudo find -x / -d 1 -regex '.*[^\.\].*' -exec sudo du -shx {} +
Password:
   n
1,0K    /home
4,0K    /.OSInstallMessages
931M    /usr
621M    /.Spotlight-V100
1,0K    /net
 12K    /.DS_Store
  0B    /.PKInstallSandboxManager-SystemSoftware
2,5M    /bin
965M    /.adobeTemp
  0B    /installer.failurerequests
1,0M    /sbin
  0B    /.file
  0B    /etc
  0B    /var
6,4G    /Library
4,0K    /
  0B    /.Trashes
  0B    /Adobe
6,9G    /System
4,2G    /OS X Install Data
 32M    /.fseventsd
4,0G    /private
 19M    /.DocumentRevisions-V100
  0B    /.vol
 57G    /Users
3,0G    /Previous System
 22G    /Applications
4,5K    /dev
  0B    /Volumes
  0B    /tmp
  0B    /cores

Bloc de code: 
MacBook-Pro-de-admin:~ admin$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0 (internal, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *256.1 GB   disk0
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk0s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk1         255.7 GB   disk0s2

/dev/disk1 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +255.7 GB   disk1
                                 Physical Store disk0s2
   1:                APFS Volume Macintosh               116.2 GB   disk1s1
   2:                APFS Volume PreBoot                 23.9 MB    disk1s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                516.6 MB   disk1s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      1.1 GB     disk1s4

/dev/disk2 (external, physical):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      GUID_partition_scheme                        *500.1 GB   disk2
   1:                        EFI EFI                     209.7 MB   disk2s1
   2:                 Apple_APFS Container disk3         499.8 GB   disk2s2

/dev/disk3 (synthesized):
   #:                       TYPE NAME                    SIZE       IDENTIFIER
   0:      APFS Container Scheme -                      +499.8 GB   disk3
                                 Physical Store disk2s2
   1:                APFS Volume Clone                   116.8 GB   disk3s1
   2:                APFS Volume PreBoot                 23.9 MB    disk3s2
   3:                APFS Volume Recovery                514.5 MB   disk3s3
   4:                APFS Volume VM                      1.1 GB     disk3s4
 
@ Alexandre

Il y a 116,8 Go d'occupation de blocs dans Macintosh. Exactement comme dans la source Clone.

- et je comptabilise 106 Gi = 114 Go de fichiers catalogués. Soit un petit excédent de blocs occupés de 2,8 Go sur les fichiers recensés.​

=> où vois-tu un problème ?
 
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Réactions: alexandrediaz
Alors content pour toi !

- je te signale que tu as des données supprimables dans l'espace-racine de ton volume Macintosh (qui ont été fidèlement clonées par CCC) --> OS X Install Data (ancien dossier d'installation plantée d'OS X) : 4,2 Gi = 4,5 Go > Previous System : 3 Gi = 3,2 Go.​
 
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Réactions: litobar71
Bonjour Wolver

Passe la commande :
Bloc de code: 
sudo du -sh ~/Library/"Application Support"/*

  • qui mesure (en Gi) les contenus de Application Support dans ta Bibliothèque de compte

Poste le retour.
 
Voici les résultats:


Bloc de code: 
3,9M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
344K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/AoW3
 72K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/App Store
317M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Battle.net
1,1M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Blizzard
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Blizzard Entertainment
 17M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CCP
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CEF
 48M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Call of War
972K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryDB
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryTransactions
 80M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CloudDocs
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CoreParsec
128K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CrashReporter
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/DiskImages
 52K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Dock
6,2G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/EVE Online
 12K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/GameSparks
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/GeoGebra
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/JREInstaller
4,6M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Knowledge
196K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Microsoft AU Daemon
 20K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Microsoft AutoUpdate
184K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Microsoft Update Assistant
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/MobileSync
400K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Quick Look
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Riot Games
232M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Spotify
 35G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Steam
 41M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Supremacy 1914
472K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/SyncServices
8,6M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/WhatsApp
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/accountsd
3,2M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.ProtectedCloudStorage
 56K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.backgroundtaskmanagementagent
1,4M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.sbd
120K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.sharedfilelist
 44K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.spotlight
152K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.touristd
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.plarium.stormfallrob
226M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/discord
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/dmd
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/iCloud
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/iLifeMediaBrowser
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/icdd
335M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/minecraft
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/unity.The Artistocrats.Order of Battle - WWII
104K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/videosubscriptionsd
pc-3:~ raphaeljob$ sudo du -sh ~/Library/"Application Support"/*
3,9M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
344K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/AoW3
 72K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/App Store
317M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Battle.net
1,1M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Blizzard
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Blizzard Entertainment
 17M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CCP
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CEF
 48M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Call of War
972K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryDB
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CallHistoryTransactions
 80M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CloudDocs
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CoreParsec
128K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/CrashReporter
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/DiskImages
 52K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Dock
6,2G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/EVE Online
 12K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/GameSparks
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/GeoGebra
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/JREInstaller
4,6M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Knowledge
196K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Microsoft AU Daemon
 20K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Microsoft AutoUpdate
184K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Microsoft Update Assistant
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/MobileSync
400K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Quick Look
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Riot Games
232M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Spotify
 29G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Steam
 41M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Supremacy 1914
472K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/SyncServices
8,6M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/WhatsApp
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/accountsd
3,2M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.ProtectedCloudStorage
 56K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.TCC
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.backgroundtaskmanagementagent
1,4M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.sbd
120K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.sharedfilelist
 44K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.spotlight
152K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.apple.touristd
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/com.plarium.stormfallrob
226M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/discord
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/dmd
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/iCloud
  0B    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/iLifeMediaBrowser
4,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/icdd
335M    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/minecraft
8,0K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/unity.The Artistocrats.Order of Battle - WWII
104K    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/videosubscriptionsd

Effectivement il y a près de 39 G utilisé pour faire fonctionner steam ou des jeux Steam, peut être qu'il y a un lien avec la transition vers les 64 bits et l'arrêt des prises en charge des application en 32 bits par apple...
 
La localisation principale est ici -->
Bloc de code: 
 29G    /Users/raphaeljob/Library/Application Support/Steam

  • Steam : 29 Gi = 31,2 Go

=> les ressources d'un jeu ?
 
C'est à toi de voir si tu supprimes le dossier (ce qui devrait rendre nécessaire une réinstallation de Steam) ou pas.
 
Bonjour,
de même je suis sur High Sierra (10.13) et j'ai 98G de Système sur mes 121G disponible..
malheureusement le problème ne semble pas venir de TimeMachine



Bloc de code: 
Filesystem     Size   Used  Avail Capacity iused               ifree %iused  Mounted on
/dev/disk1s1   121G   117G    21M   100%  755287 9223372036854020520    0%   /
 

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